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Poster: DeadEncore Date: Oct 4, 2013 9:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Feb 1972 Winterland Shows, pretty Darn good

Had a chance to listen to 2 of the 3 nights last evening and was truly, truly impressed. Not the entire shows but all of the highlights and plenty more watching the B's open thing their season and the baseball game, as well.
Have most of the DP's from 71-79 (not a big fan beyond that) and most of the box sets (73, both 77's, GD movie etc), and load more of special releases 5 Europe 72's Cow Palace Egypt etc. Not trying to boast, just point out that these 3shows in my brain a an easy box release. I do like the new spring 77, but honestly it's kinda a lot more of the same with most else released of that period.
74 in my mind has nothing that similar to these shows on consec. nights and would love to see David L and company do some magic to these shows. That is, if they are in the vault, which I have not they are not. Thoughts ???? And are there any other 74's floating around accessible out there that I'm not aware of ?

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Poster: Jack o' Roses Date: Oct 4, 2013 12:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Feb 1972? 74? Winterland Shows, pretty Darn good

I like the 2/74 shows but don't forget the fall 73 Winterland shows already out; seems like I liked the 2/74 shows over the 73 release myself

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Poster: DeadEncore Date: Oct 4, 2013 1:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Feb 1972? 74? Winterland Shows, pretty Darn good

Jack,
I have the Winterland 73 set and it is fine, but even that is not up to DP 29 and DP 19 that outshine that Bset in my mind. I really love the jazzie piano heavy vibe of 73. Love 72, but 73 a smig more. Really enjoyed the Feb 74 shows and would love them on the market.
I have heard that the Great Wall of Sound was fabulous live but the vocals seem somewhat low in the recording format. Maybe this is why there are not that many commercial releases of this year ?????

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 5, 2013 5:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Feb 1972? 74? Winterland Shows, pretty Darn good

Agree totally on the WOS vocals from '74. They sound tinny and weak and really muck up some otherwise fine shows. There's an explainer for why in some of the road trips releases that year but it's a bummer.

Also agree that DP 29 is THE gold standard. Those shows are ridiculously good and as fine as Winterland 73 was the maturity of the playing/jams/vocals and material (Terrapin + the old favorites from '73) make '77 a far better value.

What I'd love to see is Fall '77 in a box set but it aint gonna happen. They chopped up a bunch a shows from that tour and did a road trips instead but it lacks many many many fine shows from that tour. Shame, really.

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Poster: DeadEncore Date: Oct 5, 2013 6:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Feb 1972? 74? Winterland Shows, pretty Darn good

grendal,
I love 77 as well and hope you have all the greats from the spring, especially the killer B's, Boston, Barton and Buffalo. Now of the other commercially released 77 shows add up the quality of those three. Ironic that they never will be released with the vault not having them.
I always kind of felt that the vault surely have copies of these nights that were from the GD soundboards. This music is the GD's that was technically stolen. I say clean em up, sell em and let that people that own them bring the battle to court. Love a good battle.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 5, 2013 8:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Feb 1972? 74? Winterland Shows, pretty Darn good

Killer B's for sure! 5/7-5/9 is arguably the best 3-show stretch the band ever performed.

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Poster: ganges Date: Oct 7, 2013 4:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Feb 1972? 74? Winterland Shows, pretty Darn good

Hi Grendel, I've been wondering if you ever got any response regarding the GDTRFB from the May77 Box Set (read your post on dead.net).

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 7, 2013 3:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Feb 1972? 74? Winterland Shows, pretty Darn good

You know, Ganges, I checked for a while and never saw any official response at all...only a couple of other forum users mentioning the subterfuge. Then I just kind of gave up checking. Not like that site is worth spending a ton of time on, but it really woulda been nice to hear SOMEONE admit that they pulled a fast one.

No reason to be coy about it-they subbed in the best possible version (6/8/77) that they could have...but it's not cool to at least acknowledge that the 5/13/77 you get in the box set has a GDTR from a totally different show.

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Poster: ganges Date: Oct 8, 2013 9:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Feb 1972? 74? Winterland Shows, pretty Darn good

I also checked a couple of times and then stopped - I agree with you. I'd still like to write to DL about it but even though I think I had his mail address once I can't find it.

Thanks for responding, G.

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Poster: DeadEncore Date: Oct 7, 2013 9:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Feb 1972? 74? Winterland Shows, pretty Darn good

Grendal,
Do love DP 29, but in my mind the gold standard is DP 28. Two shows that are recorded pristine and the band is tight, dynamic, jazzy and creative at the same time. I have 8, 12, 1 and most of the other top pre 79 DP's, but 28 is always my fav for all the reasons listed above. This was Keith in full glory and mostly piano. 73 gets my nod as favorite year, but who cares. Just thankful there is so much great music they spoiled us with.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 7, 2013 3:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Feb 1972? 74? Winterland Shows, pretty Darn good

Is DP 28 the '73 shows from Nebraska? I've been listening to that one lately repeatedly. Amazing stuff. Top tier China>Rider and an amazing DS (before it breaks down into space-junk-feedback.)

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Poster: DeadEncore Date: Oct 8, 2013 10:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Feb 1972? 74? Winterland Shows, pretty Darn good

Yes Grendal, DP is two concerts. One from Neb and the other from Salt Lake. Very similar feel to both shows, but in my mind the best Pick I own, but then again it's always great to get excited about a show you revisit. DP 28 though is the one that I never need to revisit, as it's played so often.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 8, 2013 12:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Feb 1972? 74? Winterland Shows, pretty Darn good

The ROW JIMMY from the Utah show is one of
The smoothest and sweetest ever
Pretty outstanding dp
I put it up there with vol 29 and whichever one
Is the winter land 12/29/77 show

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Oct 9, 2013 4:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Feb 1972? 74? Winterland Shows, pretty Darn good

I agree, the row jimmy on DP 28 along with the el paso, box of rain, hes gone 3 song pairing was a staple in my very early dead days.